UK MoD concerned about military jets crashing chasing UFOs.
Posted by lahar9jhadav on July 17, 2012
LINKS TO UK UFO FILES released in July 2012
- DEFE 24/1984/1
- DEFE 24/2083/1
- DEFE 24/1985/1
- DEFE 24/2084/1
- DEFE 24/1987/1
- DEFE 24/2087/1
- DEFE 24/2005/1
- DEFE 24/2088/1
- DEFE 24/2043/1
- DEFE 24/2089/1
- DEFE 24/2061/1
- DEFE 24/2090/1
- DEFE 24/2073/1
- DEFE 24/2093/1
- DEFE 24/2074/1
- DEFE 31/189/1
- DEFE 24/2077/1
- DEFE 31/190/1
- DEFE 24/2078/1
- DEFE 31/191/1
- DEFE 24/2079/1
- DEFE 31/192/1
- DEFE 24/2080/1
- DEFE 31/194/1
File DEFE 24/2090/1 references a report called "Unidentified Aerial Phenomena in the U.K. Air Defense Region,"code-named "Project Condign." The report, completed in 2000, was first classified as Secret/UK Eyes Only prior to being declassified for public release.
Condign included something that had both serious and frightening UFO overtones — fatal accidents of Royal Air Force aircraft after UFO encounters.
Briefing for House of Lords UFO debate
In a briefing prepared for MoD prior to the House of Lords UFO Debate in 1979 a UFO (DI55) Intelligence Officer questions why in such a vast universe aliens would want to visit an insignificant planet (the Earth) of an uninteresting star (the sun)・ He sgays such a visit would probably not occur more than once in a thousand years or so, even if one assumes that every intelligent community made say 10 launches a year.・ He questions why, if UFOs were piloted by aliens, no intensive radio listening searches carried out by reputable scientific organisations, particularly in the US, have intercepted some of the transmissions between spacecraft or between spacecraft and their base. He concludes claims of thousands of visits in the last decade or so are far too large to be credible.・(p157)
UFO sighting during Falklands War
A 1982 memo notes a fall in numbers of UFO sightings reported to MoD since the beginning of the Falklands War but notes one letter claims large numbers of UFOs have been seen in the vicinity of the Task Force – presumably Little Green Men in ponchos.・.(p76)
A 1995 briefing by a UFO desk officer at DI55 on the need for a full study of UFO data as national security implications have never been properly assessed. Under the heading "possibilities‟ the author lists mass hallucinations, hoaxes, US Black Project aircraft, Russian or Chinese aircraft or Extra-Terrestrial visitors. He says there is no hard evidence for alien craft but says if the sightings are not of this earth then their purpose needs to be established as a matter of priority. There has been no apparently hostile intent and other possibilities are: a) military reconnaissance b) scientific c) tourism (p38-43).
Harnessing UFO technology
A UFO Intelligence officer flags up need to capture UFO technology for UK use: … if the reports are taken at face value then devices exist that do not use conventional reaction propulsion systems; they have a very wide range of speeds and are stealthy. I suggest we could use this technology, if it exists. (p38-43)
Project Condign DEFE 24/2090/1
(p157) contains David Clarke‟s 2005 FOI request for the report "Unidentified Aerial Phenomena in the UK Air Defence Region‟, code-named "Project Condign‟. The report was completed in 2000 and was originally classified Secret/UK Eyes Only before being declassified for release. The Under Secretary of State for Defence was briefed prior to the release of the report (DEFE 24/2090/1 p68-80). MoD was concerned news of the report‟s existence would contradict previous Ministerial statements that MoD had no interest in UFOs and had never carried out any studies of the subject.
Two other topics included in the report caused concern:
US hypersonic spyplane ‘Aurora’
The report contained references to a study of unexplained fatal accidents involving RAF aircraft over a 30 year period (DEFE 24/2090/1 p80). Some concern was expressed about a possible link to the crash of a Chinook helicopter on Mull of Kintyre in 1994 that some conspiracy theorists had linked to UFOs and/or the movements of the mysterious US hypersonic spyplane code-named Aurora (DEFE 24 2090/1 p126). Aurora and rumours about US black project aircraft flying in UK airspace were the subject of Parliamentary Questions by MPs Martin Redmond and George Foulkes in 1992. These followed reports published by The Scotsman and Janes’s Defence that Aurora was flying from RAF Machrihanish on the Kintyre peninsula. The Parliamentary Question file responds to reports of unexplained aircraft on air traffic control radar and mysterious sonic booms. Publicly MoD said they had no knowledge of the existence of Aurora but a background briefing (DEFE 24/2061/1 p1265) says UFO Desk Officers would not be surprised if it did exist.
Using atmospheric plasmas as weapons
One of the subsidiary findings of the UAP study was that some UFOs were rare atmospheric plasmas (e.g. ball lightning) that could be harnessed or used by the military as "novel weapon technology.‟ MoD initially redacted a paragraph from the executive summary of the report (at DEFE 24/2090/1, p47) but later cleared this section for release on review following an appeal by David Clarke.
Flying Saucer Working Party
In 1998 copies of "Top Secret‟ minutes of the MoD‟s DSI/JTIC Flying Saucer Working Party of 1950-52 were opened at the Public Record Office, now The National Archives. A note in file DEFE 24/1987/1 (p158) says: Oh dear! This makes our line "no interest "in [flying saucers] look suspect. I know not now but maybe then. Also make it look like we were in cahoots with the Americans on this subject.
US interest in UFOs
DEFE 24/1985/1 (p239-40) contains a response by MoD to a US Air Force request for information on British UFO policy in 1965. MoD says our policy is to play down the subject and to avoid attaching undue attention to it, as a result there had never
been any political pressure for an official study. In 1995, the UFO Desk asked RAF Air Attache in Washington to ascertain the US Department of Defense‟s "line on UFOs.‟ In file DEFE 24/1985/1 (p81-82) the response says after posing the questions to a variety of staff [in HQ US Space Command] and receiving blank stares in return・he was referred to the Department of Defense‟s website which said the US had no interest in UFO reports, a policy which was consistent with our own, but they discourage approaches from the public rather more politely than we do.
Roswell DEFE 24/1985/1
(p10) in January 1997 a Defence Intelligence official responded to a question on briefings given to MoD by CIA on Roswell incident and reports of "crashed UFOs‟ stating we have no data on the alleged "Roswell incident‟ or any UAP/UFO crashes in either the UK or US and have never, as far as we can tell from existing files, received any briefings from any US agencies, including the CIA.
UFOlogists File DEFE 24/1984/1 (p294)
contains a 1996 Parliamentary Question from Martin Redmond MP asking on how many occasions MI6 and GCHQ have monitored UFO investigations. This was interpreted to mean ‘have the agencies been keeping watch on UFOlogists.’ A background briefing says neither agency in fact undertakes such activity, though GCHQ cannot rule out the possibility・tlhey had monitored 妬nd other contexts individuals who have made a study of UFOs. The MP was told the government do not comment on the intelligence and security agencies (p298). File DEFE 24/1987/1 (p262-65) reveals that in 1997 Special Branch took an interest in a UFOlogist who became obsessed with rumours of a secret UFO facility beneath RAF Rudloe Manor in Wiltshire. The base had become known as the British equivalent of the secret US military airbase ‘Area 51’ among conspiracy theorists. An internal note said Special Branch…do not believe he poses a specific threat to security, but they are alert to the risk that others may use him as a conduit for their activities.
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) Report File DEFE 24/2090/1 (p47)
contains a ‘Secret: UK Eyes Only’ memo from 4 December 2000 which announces the completion of the ‘Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) Report’. The report concludes that sighting reports provide nothing of value to the DIS in our assessment of threat weapons systems. It said many of the sightings can be explained as mis-reporting of man-made vehicles;
natural but not unusual phenomena and natural but relatively rare and no completely understood phenomena. The report recommends that the Defence Intelligence branch should no longer receive UFO reports and reminds staff of the media interest in this subject and consequently the sensitivity of the report…plenase protect accordingly and discuss the report only with those who have a need to know.
UFOs & Politicians
Tony Blair File DEFE 24/1987/1 (p199-201, 84-85 and 77-81) contains a lengthy briefing to No 10 on UFO Policy in 1998 after the author of the book A Covert Agenda, Nick Redfern, wrote to PM Tony Blair urging him to consider making available for public scrutiny all of the many and varied UFO reports compiled by the government・that were being with-held from the public. The request arrived as Blair’s government began to implement the white paper on Freedom of Information.
John Major DEFE 24.1984/1 (p289)
in October 1996, PM John Major answered a Parliamentary Question tabled by the Martin Redmond MP, asking if he would set up an official inquiry into UFO sightings. Major responded: ‘the government has no plans to allocate resources to research extra-terrestrial phenomena’.
In November 1996 Martin Redmond MP wrote a letter to Defence Minister Michael Heseltine asking why RAF had failed to launch aircraft to intercept a UFO spotted by police officers in Skegness and Boston, Lincolnshire, a ‘sighting’ that was later confirmed by RAF radars (DEFE 24.1984/1 p117). In the same file there is a copy of an investigation of Redmond’s claims conducted by a RAF Wing Commander. He said the Royal Greenwich Observatory had identified the lights spotted by the police as bright stars and his report concludes the radar echoes were caused by a tall building – the Boston church spire (p26-48).
UFO sightings and reports
‘Welsh Triangle‘ and silver–suited spacemen (DEFE 24/2043/1 p31-48) A spate of UFO and alien sightings in West Wales during 1977 led to tabloid headlines linking the region with the infamous Bermuda Triangle. The local MP, Nicholas Edwards, said he was inundated with reports from constituents and asked MoD to investigate. He received a letter from the proprietor a local hotel who claimed she saw a dome-shaped object land like the moon falling down behind the hotel. Two tall silver-suited 吐aceless humanoids emerged and began making measurements. She told her MP she was left in a state of shock. MoD asked the RAF police to make discreet enquiries・in the area and sent an officer from RAF Brawdy to interview the woman. He suspected a practical joker was at work in the area and noted that a silver protective suit used in nearby oil refineries had been on display in a shop window at Haverfordwest shortly before the ‘spacemen’ were seen.
‘Men in Black’ visitation (DEFE24/2089/1 p471)
A member of the public from Spalding, Lincolnshire who had reported a UFO encounter to police, later went on to receive a late night visit from three tall men dressed in black suits who 都esemed to move silently・ according to a friend who witnessed the visit whilst hiding in the downstairs toilet. The men apparently broke in through the back door, before entering the bedroom of the UFO witness and having a conversation, the content of which was not overheard. The 菟etrified friend locked themselves in the toilet until "men in black‟ left in a black Jaguar soon afterwards. When asked afterwards, the UFO witness did not recall seeing any "men in black‟ or encountering a UFO in the first place.
Sighting by RAF pilot 1958 (DEFE 24/2080/1 p160)
RAF Air Commodore (Intelligence) Hugh Anthony Caillard, in a 1978 memo to the Defence Intelligence Staff, says I have never dismissed UFOs as a figment of imagination and during some 5,000 hours of flying I have on one occasion seen an object, at the time (in 1958) I was flying across the [United] States at about 40,000 feet when I saw a brightly illuminated object greatly in excess of my altitude…at the time the civilian jet airliner had not had its debut and I reported the phenomena to an air traffic control reporting centre who accepted my observation as if were something quite routine!
Alien Abduction in Scotland (DEFE 31/189/1 p360-61)
A report submitted to MoD in August 1992 by two men described a UFO seen over the A70 which dropped a curtain of light across the road. The men later underwent regression hypnosis and an alien abduction story emerged. This story is the basis of a feature film to be released later this year.
Chinese lantern UFOs 2005–7
A craze for releasing sky lanterns led to a spate of UFOs reports to MoD from 2005. DEFE 24/2083/1 (p180-190 and p149-50) includes four separate reports of golden orbs・bseen by people near Loughton tube station in Essex and reported to police in September 2005. In DEFE 24/2088/1 (p155) a similar sighting from Brighton in August 2007 led a woman to call the MoD’s UFO hotline panicking [and] saying we had to ring her back (She left three messages saying this). She was petrified and so were her friends. She had never seen anything like this before. A caller from Houghton-le-Spring, Co Durham, saw similar lights but did not think they were UFOs as he didn’t believe aliens would want to visit Houghton (p146-7).
UFO sighted by Police (DEFE 31/194/1 p11)
A mounted police officer reported a sighting of a square/diamond shaped object moving across the sky and changing shape whilst on duty at Chelsea FC ground in 1999.
Geographical distribution of UFO sightings from the files
Note: this is not a comprehensive list of all the UFO sightings in the 9th tranche of files. It is a representative sample of the more interesting and newsworthy sighting accounts.
Belgium DEFE 24/2061/1 (p645, p588-615, p594-95, p2-103) DEFE 24/1985/1 (p267-84) DEFE 24/1984/1 (p86-99)
Cambridgeshire DEFE 24/2084/1 (p227-31, 458-71)
Channel Islands DEFE 24/2079/1 (p34)
Cornwall DEFE 31/189/1 (p241)
Derbyshire DEFE 24/2043/1 (p98-99, 76-88, 64-72)
Co Durham DEFE 24/2083/1 (p175) DEFE 24/2088/1 (p146-47)
East Yorkshire DEFE 24/2079/1 (p119-30) DEFE 31/192/1 (p43)
Essex DEFE 24/2083/1 (p180-90, 149-50, 24) DEFE 24/2073/1 (p27-28)
Falkland Islands DEFE 24/2080/1 (p76)
France DEFE 24/2080/1 (p77-80)
Germany DEFE 24/2084/1 (p175-76)
Gloucestershire DEFE 24/2083/1 (p113)
Hampshire DEFE 24/2084/1 (p3-24) DEFE 24/2088/1 (p116)
Kent DEFE 24/2083/1 (p47) DEFE 24/2088/1 (p24)
Lancashire: DEFE 24/1985/1 (p124-122, 6-9)
Lincolnshire DEFE 24/1985/1 (p20-29) DEFE 24/1984/1 (p116-17, 13-82) DEFE 31/189/1 (p48-81) London DEFE 31/193/1 (p14) DEFE 31/194/1 (p11)
Manchester DEFE 24/1985/1 (p175-77, 159)
North Yorkshire DEFE 24/1987/1 (p6-8) DEFE 24/2083/1 (p92-100) DEFE 24/2088/1 (p143)
Northumberland DEFE 24/2088/1 (p18)
Netherlands DEFE 24/2090/1 (p62)
New Zealand DEFE 24/2061/1 (p946-47).
Norfolk DEFE 24/2061/1 (p646) DEFE 24/1985/1 (p208-10) DEFE 24/2084/1 (p190-92) DEFE 31/194/1 (p20)
Northern Ireland DEFE 24/2073/1 (p24-25)
Orkney Islands DEFE 24/2089/1 (p498-99)
Rendlesham Forest incident (Suffolk): DEFE 24/2061/1 (p1344-48; 1111, 1102) DEFE 24/2080/1 (p61-73); DEFE 24/1984/1 (p108-10) DEFE 24/2005/1 (p276-99, 147-201, 17-36)
Scotland DEFE 24/2005/1 (p309-11) DEFE 24/2061/1 (p1265-70) DEFE 24/2083/1 (p40-41) DEFE 24/2074/1 (p155-74) DEFE 24/1985/1 (p204-5, 161-62) DEFE 24/1987/1 (p312-13) DEFE 24/2087/1 (p82-83) DEFE 24/2088/1 (p30) DEFE 24/2090/1 (p126-7) DEFE 31/189/1 (p360-61) DEFE 31/193/1 (p17-19) DEFE 31/194/1 (p23, 32)
Shetland Islands: DEFE 31/192/1 (p22)
Shropshire DEFE 24/2093/1 (p22) DEFE 24/2088/1 (p12) DEFE 31/194/1 (p9)
Somerset DEFE 24/2088/1 (p62)
South Wales DEFE 24/2090/1 (p6-11) DEFE 24/2084/1 (p245-46) DEFE 31/191/1 (p126-27)
South Yorkshire: DEFE 24/2074/1 (p103-124) DEFE 31/193/1 (p23-27)
Staffordshire DEFE 24/2073/1 (p83-103)
Suffolk: DEFE 24/2080/1 (p141-46) DEFE 24/2084/1 (p175-76) DEFE 24/2083/1 (p32-34) DEFE 24/2077/1 (p88-94)
Sussex: DEFE 24/2088/1 (p155) DEFE 24/2074/1 (p19)
Thailand DEFE 24/2084/1 (p175-76)
United States of America DEFE 24/2080/1 (p160)
West Midlands DEFE 24/2061/1 (p389-472)
West Wales DEFE 24/2043/1 (p31-48) West Yorkshire DEFE 24/2088/1 (p163)
Wiltshire DEFE 24/1987/1 (p203-217, 286-99, 254-80, 114) DEFE 24/1984/1 (p271-75) DEFE 24/2078/1 (p101-102) DEFE 31/192/1 (p36)